Eid il Fitr and Shawwal 1429 (2008)
Let the moon fighting sighting begin.
"Crescentwatch.org encourages everyone to go out to look for the new crescent moon this Tuesday night (Sep. 30th 2008) in anticipation of the beginning of the month of Shawwal and the close of this blessed month of Ramadan. However, Muslim astronomers have indicated that it will be very difficult to sight the moon anywhere in North America on Tuesday evening (see visibility charts here), and we will perhaps complete the 30 days of Ramadan and sight the new moon of Shawwal on Wednesday night. We are thus anticipating to celebrate Eid on either Wednesday, Oct. 1st 2008, or on Thursday, Oct. 2nd 2008.
The crescent would be visible shortly after sunset, low in the sky, and slightly to the left (south) of where the sun had set. It is a beautiful experience to sight its emergence, and it is a sunnah of our noble Prophet, sal Allahu alayhi wa salam, that we hope the ummah revives.
Please check our site (www.crescentwatch.org) for regular updates, moon sighting reports, and additional information on moon sighting. We will post our final determination regarding the date of Shawwal and Eid al-Fitr on Tuesday night at 8:30pm PST. in sha Allah"
The IslamCrunch team wishes all our readers, the Muslim community and humanity and blessed ‘Eid il Fitr and Selamat Hari Raya.
Don’t forget the 6 days of fasting in Shawwal, for more effective discipline of the soul.
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Tall Mohammad Says: September 27th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Salaam Alaykum
I Love the Founders of Zaytuna for the sake of ALLAH , who started Crescent watch, BUT i strongly disagree with their one sided view of the issue of moon sightings
The new moon will occur astronomically at 1:13 AM PDT on Monday, 9/29/08
according to http://moonsighting.com/vis-maps.html there is a strong possibility for large parts of the world to site the new moon on Tuesday evening.
even their own charts show the moon as easily visible in Mexico, which is part of North America and the southern part of California
islamcrunch Says: September 28th, 2008 at 2:58 am
Wa'alaykumsalam Sidi Mohammad,
Thanks for sharing your views. May Allah s.w.t. unite us all.
islamcrunch Says: September 29th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
Here are some comments from a Facebook thread (identities hidden)
R.H wrote:
In Malaysia, 1st Sy.awal shall be on Wednesday 1 Oct, insyaAllah.
S.A. wrote:
I have no problem looking for the crescent but it doesn't make sense to ignore the technology we have. We have salat times table and there is no reason not to have lunar calendar so that we don't lead our lives in limbo. Besides it doesn't make sense to ignore the national body… ISNA.
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R.R. wrote:
Salat timetables are based on the movement of the sun; unfortunately the movement of our moon is less predictable compared to the sun's movement. I hope this helps. Allah knows best.
M.A.K. wrote
You may want to have a read of http://www.crescentmoonwatch.org/background.htm prediction of the new moon is not as easy as one might imagine even with modern technology. The Sunna is to sight the moon and start Ramadan and sight moon and end Ramdan. We will be in danger of losing this Sunna if we over rely on modern technology. Remember in the time of the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace). there were instances where people in Madina celebrated eid a day before the people of Mecca.
Mikael Pittam wrote:
No need to disregard technology and we should NEVER disregard the sunnahs.
For countries on or near the equator, like Singapore and Malaysia, it's very difficult to sight the moon. They have no choice but to use calculations.
Here in the US and UK, we have the tremendous blessings of seeing the stars, the moon and the celestial bodies. Why keep ourselves buried in 1001100110001000101011101000100011 [a href=http://www.ilovetech.org>>sunnah, who cares e=MC2 * <infinity>, when we can view the heavenly skies, follow the sunnah and use our God-given intelligence.
May Allah bless ISNA. I am not ignoring them. However, if a national body is disregarding or going against a certain element it does not mean we have to blindly follow them. If Yahya McCain or Barry Hussein wants to invade Pakistan, should I follow them? (I am still going to vote and pray for the best but it does not mean I accept all their viewpoints.)
You will understand the first sentence in my original blog post: http://islamcrunch.com/archives/eid-il-fitr-and...
Thanks again everyone for sharing.
Salam,
Mikael
P.S. Anyone calculating judgment day? Please send me a txt, IM or email if absolutely necessary.
S.A. wrote
Moon cycles are also on predictable pattern (and there is evidence from Quran and Science). The only questionable part is “sighting.” However, that can be easily defined empirically and has been based on the number of hours the moon can be sighted after its birth. As such the sunnah of sighting the moon is not disregarded if we can use technology to predict when it can be sighted.
Mikael Pittam wrote:
Exactly. We can agree that we can use science to prepare ourselves to partake the beautiful sunnah of moonsighting. And then determine 'Eid. Selamat Hari Raya and 'Eid Mubarak!
I.S. wrote
http://www.zaytuna.org/articleDetails.asp?artic...
I highly recommend Shaykh Hamza Yusuf's CAESAREAN MOON BIRTHS book.
As for the earlier note, I'd also say be very cautious about prayer timetables. The other day I compared the Maghrib time on the table with the actual sunset, and it was off by almost five minutes. Measuring shadows and watching the celestial lights is a form of worship.
God bless you all. Happy Eid to all.
islamcrunch Says: September 30th, 2008 at 1:32 am
IslamCrunch StormTrooper Team
islamcrunch Says: September 30th, 2008 at 4:57 am
Here are some comments from a Facebook thread (identities hidden)
R.H wrote:
In Malaysia, 1st Sy.awal shall be on Wednesday 1 Oct, insyaAllah.
S.A. wrote:
I have no problem looking for the crescent but it doesn't make sense to ignore the technology we have. We have salat times table and there is no reason not to have lunar calendar so that we don't lead our lives in limbo. Besides it doesn't make sense to ignore the national body… ISNA.
Report – Delete
R.R. wrote:
Salat timetables are based on the movement of the sun; unfortunately the movement of our moon is less predictable compared to the sun's movement. I hope this helps. Allah knows best.
M.A.K. wrote
You may want to have a read of http://www.crescentmoonwatch.org/background.htm prediction of the new moon is not as easy as one might imagine even with modern technology. The Sunna is to sight the moon and start Ramadan and sight moon and end Ramdan. We will be in danger of losing this Sunna if we over rely on modern technology. Remember in the time of the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace). there were instances where people in Madina celebrated eid a day before the people of Mecca.
Mikael Pittam wrote:
No need to disregard technology and we should NEVER disregard the sunnahs.
For countries on or near the equator, like Singapore and Malaysia, it's very difficult to sight the moon. They have no choice but to use calculations.
Here in the US and UK, we have the tremendous blessings of seeing the stars, the moon and the celestial bodies. Why keep ourselves buried in 1001100110001000101011101000100011 [a href=http://www.ilovetech.org>>sunnah, who cares e=MC2 * <infinity>, when we can view the heavenly skies, follow the sunnah and use our God-given intelligence.
May Allah bless ISNA. I am not ignoring them. However, if a national body is disregarding or going against a certain element it does not mean we have to blindly follow them. If Yahya McCain or Barry Hussein wants to invade Pakistan, should I follow them? (I am still going to vote and pray for the best but it does not mean I accept all their viewpoints.)
You will understand the first sentence in my original blog post: http://islamcrunch.com/archives/eid-il-fitr-and...
Thanks again everyone for sharing.
Salam,
Mikael
P.S. Anyone calculating judgment day? Please send me a txt, IM or email if absolutely necessary.
S.A. wrote
Moon cycles are also on predictable pattern (and there is evidence from Quran and Science). The only questionable part is “sighting.” However, that can be easily defined empirically and has been based on the number of hours the moon can be sighted after its birth. As such the sunnah of sighting the moon is not disregarded if we can use technology to predict when it can be sighted.
Mikael Pittam wrote:
Exactly. We can agree that we can use science to prepare ourselves to partake the beautiful sunnah of moonsighting. And then determine 'Eid. Selamat Hari Raya and 'Eid Mubarak!
I.S. wrote
http://www.zaytuna.org/articleDetails.asp?artic...
I highly recommend Shaykh Hamza Yusuf's CAESAREAN MOON BIRTHS book.
As for the earlier note, I'd also say be very cautious about prayer timetables. The other day I compared the Maghrib time on the table with the actual sunset, and it was off by almost five minutes. Measuring shadows and watching the celestial lights is a form of worship.
God bless you all. Happy Eid to all.
islamcrunch Says: September 30th, 2008 at 6:32 am
IslamCrunch StormTrooper Team
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